PS4 Round 7 - Monaco Grand Prix - [18/10/2020 8PM UK]


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Round 7 - Monaco Grand Prix
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Race Information:
Date: Sunday 18th October 2020
Start Time: 8:00pm (UK time)
Circuit: Circuit de Monaco
Laps: 39

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Don’t make me have to race this track on the pad. Please
 
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R: 3 (classified 4th but there was a glitch demoting me though I had no penalties, so I have posted to the Stewards panel)
Quali was going very well for a change with my banker being good enough for provisional pole. However, on my second lap I spun at Portier and tried to spin myself back round. This should be perfectly reasonable and allowed, but the game decided I was driving the wrong way and disqualified me. Good thing there were only 14 of us.
Race was pretty much perfect again. My pace seemed to be insane and after avoiding the lap 1 carnage I was about 2 seconds a lap quicker than @iJokeri22 in front of me. But there was the mother of all pile ups at the hairpin and I got wing damage, so pitted onto the hards. From there i was in a DRS train with @DON SILVA @olavstar and @iJokeri22. The safety cars started coming, which massively played in my favour. Pulled off a very opportunistic move on Olav when he hit the wall at Rascasse and was ghosted, so we had a drag race to T1, which was fun. After all the safety car shenanigans I found myself behind @DON SILVA in P4. Pulled off a fantastic divebomb at the Nouvelle Chicane, which I left myself quite surprised with. Managed to keep it clean and well done to Don because he could easily have put me in the wall.
Last few laps was in a leader's DRS train with @Sneaky24-7Ninja and @MrJoshua. Then a safety car came out with 3 laps to go which was unusual. Joshua pitted as we had a massive gap to Don and co behind. It only stayed out for 1 lap and Joshua got me on the restart after a terrible exit from the final corner. Binned it into the wall at Saint Devote and had to limp home with a broken wing for two laps. Congratulations to @MrJoshua on his strategic masterclass and hopefully I can get back to P3 where I should be.
 
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R : DNF (thanks(◍•ᴗ•◍)❤)


I think it was a difficult race for pretty much everyone and obviously also for me with mistakes on my side which led to bad strategic calls. I mean without ANY practice in race I didn't have any expectations.

I think the main lesson I've been taught is that overtaking is forbidden in racing. Well then I'll take care next time to quietly stay behind despite the fact I was way faster.
 

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Q: 8th 1:10.291 (S)
Surprise surprise I qualified 8th lol cheers for beating me by 0.001 @Bankai_Bullett (I got my revenge later though) :sneaky:

R: 4th (S-M-M-M)
Firstly I got hit by @olavstar right at the start of the formation lap so my tyres were stone cold.

Start was horrible thanks to the cold tyres @DON SILVA simply drove round me and then going up the hill I got sandwiched between @olavstar and @ricardo91 luckily didn't get any damage. Settled in to 10th place at the back of a train of cars going very slowly which caught me out massively at the hairpin on lap 3 when everyone slowed more than I was expecting and I lost my wing on the back of @olavstar and @timbob4321 did exactly the same on the back of me luckily this caused a VSC so we didn't lose as much time pitting that lap.

Everyone around me pitted for hards but I went mediums as I figured there was guaranteed to be more SC/VSC so I would surely get a free pitstop sometime later in the race.

Followed @olavstar for a few laps as we very quickly caught up to @DON SILVA I was very close to being wiped out when @TheTubbyNinja came out the pits and nearly lost it but luckily no damage was done.

We caught Don on lap 8 and then despite being a lot quicker none of us could get past this carried on until lap 13 when the SC came out and I decided to take the opportunity to put on some fresh mediums that would get me to the end.

Restarted in 8th place right behind the two Renaults, came very close to putting a move on @rich500 in to the chicane on lap 17 but he braked just late enough to prevent me going down the inside.

From there just followed the train for a while we had another safety car but I think everyone stayed out.

Lap 26 and @Bankai_Bullett got wing damage so slowed to let his teammate through and I wasn't quite close enough to capitalise. A few laps later and I was right behind Bankai when he braked to go in the pits and I had no chance to avoid him which meant I lost my wing and had to pit as I was at the pitlane entrance I didn't have a chance to change my tyres so my tyres got changed from 20% worn Mediums to 30% worn Mediums and on top of that I had to serve a 5 second penalty from getting smashed in to behind the safety car so my pitstop was 13 seconds.

This all meant that with 10 laps to go I was 12th and last 10 second behind 11th and 20 seconds behind 10th.

I got 11th when @alexP pitted and I was catching @olavstar in 10th who had a lot pf penalties so I was just thinking keep Alex behind and I'll at least salvage a point, then all hell happened.

So I stared lap 36 still in 11th when the safety car was deployed I obviously stayed out as there was no reason to pit with so few laps left several other did pit though so with that and @Simon Besnard crashing I was up to 7th. The safety car came in very quickly so I was still several second behind the @DON SILVA @TheTubbyNinja & @Bankai_Bullett train with no idea that Don had substantial wing damage but as we came out of turn 1 on lap 38 I saw them all going up the hill and just though they are going to crash and sure enough seconds later all 3 of them went in to the wall at Casino I saw my opportunity and snuck down the inside of @Bankai_Bullett in to the right hander of Casino and I immediately got @DON SILVA in to the next corner as well which was followed half a lap later by @TheTubbyNinja binning it at Tabac allowing me to drive through his ghost car and up to 4th place.

Final lap and I was gaining seconds a sector on @timbob4321 in front who obviously had damage one or two more laps and I would have been on the podium but after the absolute **** show of the first 36 laps I was absolutely delighted with 4th place.

Congrats to the top 3 (not you @TheTubbyNinja lol) and everyone else who finished the race.

 
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I think the main lesson I've been taught is that overtaking is forbidden in racing. Well then I'll take care next time to quietly stay behind despite the fact I was way faster.

Its not about not being allowed to overtake its about doing it in a safe place at Monaco, being way faster than someone doesn't give you the automatic right to demand that they make way for you I'm sure in fact I know you weren't the only one who got stuck behind someone a lot slower than you but overtaking in to the corner where you tried it is only ever going to result in at least 1 of you and almost certainly both of you getting damage, basically what I'm trying to say is you can overtake at Monaco but you have to do it in the right manner and at the right corner, there were several occasions in the race where I had the option of sticking my nose up the inside or outside of a Renault but I backed out every time because I knew we would get damage and at Monaco its often better to just sit behind and take the points rather than risk it and not finish. :)

But I'm sure you'll learn from this and not make the same mistake again. :)
 

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Its not about not being allowed to overtake its about doing it in a safe place at Monaco, being way faster than someone doesn't give you the automatic right to demand that they make way for you I'm sure in fact I know you weren't the only one who got stuck behind someone a lot slower than you but overtaking in to the corner where you tried it is only ever going to result in at least 1 of you and almost certainly both of you getting damage, basically what I'm trying to say is you can overtake at Monaco but you have to do it in the right manner and at the right corner, there were several occasions in the race where I had the option of sticking my nose up the inside or outside of a Renault but I backed out every time because I knew we would get damage and at Monaco its often better to just sit behind and take the points rather than risk it and not finish. :)

But I'm sure you'll learn from this and not make the same mistake again. :)
It's a safe place if the others is clean and leave you room. Honestly I'm someone who always admits when I do something wrong but there clearly bro just he didn't leave me any room at all and I was truly alongside. Specially that he was on harder tyres and really old one so he was fighting for a position he should have already lost.

And I'm sorry but overtaking at Monaco is only hard when you're shy and have something to loose, just look Verstappen in 2018. He went for bold moves because he didn't fear of breaking his front wing. Same thing for me. I already lost the podium so clearly I didn't care of loosing my front wing for a 4th position. From the tunnel to the swimming pool there is enough room for 2 cars, just on my side I left room cause I didn't want to crash but it wasn't share feelings it seems.

At worst that's a bold move for me I agree but like I said I have the right to stay alongside someone because that's not like I tried it T15 where there is no room. T12 the corner is clearly wide enough for 2 cars. Specially that you enter at 170km/h so it's not so fast so you can't see it coming. But not a mistake from me. Though I made mistakes this race but this incident is not by any mean a mistake from me
 

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It's a safe place if the others is clean and leave you room. Honestly I'm someone who always admits when I do something wrong but there clearly bro just he didn't leave me any room at all and I was truly alongside. Specially that he was on harder tyres and really old one so he was fighting for a position he should have already lost.

And I'm sorry but overtaking at Monaco is only hard when you're shy and have something to loose, just look Verstappen in 2018. He went for bold moves because he didn't fear of breaking his front wing. Same thing for me. I already lost the podium so clearly I didn't care of loosing my front wing for a 4th position. From the tunnel to the swimming pool there is enough room for 2 cars, just on my side I left room cause I didn't want to crash but it wasn't share feelings it seems.

At worst that's a bold move for me I agree but like I said I have the right to stay alongside someone because that's not like I tried it T15 where there is no room. T12 the corner is clearly wide enough for 2 cars. Specially that you enter at 170km/h so it's not so fast so you can't see it coming. But not a mistake from me. Though I made mistakes this race but this incident is not by any mean a mistake from me
Clearly we have very different attitudes to racing at Monaco but mine got me 4th and yours got you a DNF so I know what I would prefer lol. :p
 
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I already lost the podium so clearly I didn't care
And that right there is the problem. You didn't care.

You didn't care and it cost you and another your races.

It doesn't matter at all what you think your pace is vs the car in front... it is up to YOU to make the overtake and do it in a clean manner, ESPECIALLY at a track like Monaco.
You cannot just shove your car up the inside of a corner and expect the guy in front to just yield because "he was on harder tyres and really old one so he was fighting for a position he should have already lost" and in your opinion it was plenty wide enough for 2 cars.

News flash, it isn't.

You must also understand WHO it is you're racing, as some drivers will be less/more defensive, less/more aggressive than others.

But hey, if you wanna race like that go for it... just don't expect to be too successful *shrugs*
 

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That would be silly to only say I've DNF because of this incident. That's a series of mistakes and bad strategic calls which led me to loose a lot of positions. Clearly if I've been in P5 my all race I wouldn't have try bold moves because I would have the time to get more opportunity. But still my driving style allowed me in Zandvoort and Spain to comeback through the back of the field and clinch P6 and P3 so once again I don't see a mistakes from me. Like I said I admit really easily my mistakes but there I don't see one
 

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Ok I rephrase it. I didn't care at all about the drivers. Ask Richman and Rich I left them both a ton of room which is not something that a person who doesn't care does. I didn't care of the final results because I already lost my chance to shine that's what I meant.

And stop with the Monaco argument that you can't overtake. T12 is a corner you take at 170km/h only and wide enough for 2 cars. T13 and 14 I would agree that's impossible but T12 not.
 
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WRONG. ATTITUDE.

That statement has just dropped any credibility you had.

I don't care what abilities you think you have or what pace you think you possess... you have driven another driver into a wall because YOU thought YOU deserved the position at a corner not suited to overtaking, consequences be damned.

This is not the first time you've driven another driver off track during a battle this season either. Remember Bahrain? I do.

Now, I suggest you take this two week break before Azerbaijan to readjust your attitude to racing here... because your over aggressive driving and this ego you seem to have isn't gonna fly too much longer, I'm telling you.
 
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And that right there is the problem. You didn't care.

You didn't care and it cost you and another your races.

It doesn't matter at all what you think your pace is vs the car in front... it is up to YOU to make the overtake and do it in a clean manner, ESPECIALLY at a track like Monaco.
You cannot just shove your car up the inside of a corner and expect the guy in front to just yield because "he was on harder tyres and really old one so he was fighting for a position he should have already lost" and in your opinion it was plenty wide enough for 2 cars.

News flash, it isn't.

You must also understand WHO it is you're racing, as some drivers will be less/more defensive, less/more aggressive than others.

But hey, if you wanna race like that go for it... just don't expect to be too successful *shrugs*
I know Bankai since Bahrain you despise me I understand but still this is why T12 there is enough room.

As you can see on the screen the straights before T12 is wide enough for 2 cars. I won't learn you anything when I say Monaco is a street circuit and actual road cars daily drives on it. So you can check on YouTube the road between the straights and T12 is absolutely the same so what does it mean ? That T12 is wide enough as the straights is wide enough.

I know you all think I hate Don after that so you defend him but truly I don't care for me as I'm not here to win or anything just to keep getting better and better and have fun. No I feel sorry for Don because he screwed a good opportunity to score his 1st points of the season because he didn't want to concede the position
 

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